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 Post subject: Re: Balance Week
 Post Posted: Sun Jun 13, 2010 1:22 pm 
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Zurken wrote:
give us old Observatory back!
now CI has no way to go to 2nd domain without helping the opponent
and I don't even dare to mention CI being played as a 2nd domain, that was made simply impossible .. (or show me good deck working that way please, I cannot imagine it right now)


QFT, though the old Observatory still sucked... CI needs an additional domain source...

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 Post subject: Re: Balance Week
 Post Posted: Sun Jun 13, 2010 5:36 pm 
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Agree to Zurk, Ata, and Cave entirely. With the limitations made, now all CI decks are reduced to crappy Imperial Keeps or help the opponent. Like Ata said, we could make another domain source, but I think we need :
1) 2 More domain sources.
2) Old Observatory.
3) More CI weenies.


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 Post subject: Re: Balance Week
 Post Posted: Sun Jun 13, 2010 6:38 pm 
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As much as I'd like to have all of those... I think that's too much for just a balancing fix, those are for a new expansion...

I think the simplest solution would be to return Observatory to it's old (crappy) self. Maybe even a compromise between the original and the solutions (new ability with added domain cost). We could also keep the current Observatory and convert one of the less usable cards into domain sources:

Tilting Grounds - Better, but I still can't justify using it over Elderly Swordmaster, which is easier to procure on top of all it's advantages. Sure, Tilting Grounds can put an enemy creature to sleep, but you better hope you can keep using it or you'll have a nasty beast right next to your buildings.

Forest Fire - Finally found a use for it. It can kill Loyal Wilds!!! :o I doubt even Psyclone has ever used this in limited.

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 Post subject: Re: Balance Week
 Post Posted: Sun Jun 13, 2010 7:12 pm 
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Atahualpa wrote:
As much as I'd like to have all of those... I think that's too much for just a balancing fix, those are for a new expansion...

I think the simplest solution would be to return Observatory to it's old (crappy) self. Maybe even a compromise between the original and the solutions (new ability with added domain cost). We could also keep the current Observatory and convert one of the less usable cards into domain sources:

Tilting Grounds - Better, but I still can't justify using it over Elderly Swordmaster, which is easier to procure on top of all it's advantages. Sure, Tilting Grounds can put an enemy creature to sleep, but you better hope you can keep using it or you'll have a nasty beast right next to your buildings.

Forest Fire - Finally found a use for it. It can kill Loyal Wilds!!! :o I doubt even Psyclone has ever used this in limited.


Agree with Obs change.
Lol, Forest fire is GREAT agaisnt Sylvan cards. You just learned that? ;)
And I actually think Tilting Grounds is OP. Some players have started to run weenie decks where they give a bunch of creatures 5 atk and then have that group of creatures run rampant along their suidcide weenie partners. I say switch tilting grounds back to old self, now it's just OP.


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 Post subject: Re: Balance Week
 Post Posted: Sun Jun 13, 2010 7:19 pm 
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Zblader wrote:
Lol, Forest fire is GREAT agaisnt Sylvan cards. You just learned that? ;)

But I mean, literally... it DESTROYS Loyal Wilds. Get rid of the forest it's on and Loyal Wilds disappears as well...

Zblader wrote:
And I actually think Tilting Grounds is OP. Some players have started to run weenie decks where they give a bunch of creatures 5 atk and then have that group of creatures run rampant along their suidcide weenie partners. I say switch tilting grounds back to old self, now it's just OP.


Still inferior to Expert Swordmaster... Imagine 5 atk weenies with 5 health, 5 speed and 5 vision, as well... So... Swordmaster can only affect CI creatures but CI has some pretty impressive weenies of their own... I dunno, maybe it's cause I only have CI cards.

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 Post subject: Re: Balance Week
 Post Posted: Sun Jun 13, 2010 7:49 pm 
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Atahualpa, you, probably, never played two domains decks. Buffing only CI decks forces you to play only CI creatures if you want to use it, you even can't buff UA creatures. Give Cyclododo or Animated Boulder one attack and they turns to very good creatures.


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 Post subject: Re: Balance Week
 Post Posted: Sun Jun 13, 2010 8:08 pm 
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Uh... that's what I said...

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 Post subject: Re: Balance Week
 Post Posted: Sun Jun 13, 2010 10:21 pm 
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Altren wrote:
Atahualpa, you, probably, never played two domains decks. Buffing only CI decks forces you to play only CI creatures if you want to use it, you even can't buff UA creatures. Give Cyclododo or Animated Boulder one attack and they turns to very good creatures.


This is the exact reason Obs and Tilts were good in their original forms.


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