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 Post subject: Thistle Falcon
 Post Posted: Thu Jan 22, 2009 7:03 pm 
 
Thistle Falcon needs to have 1 less HP. Flying and 1/2 for 3 flux is unbalanced, especially considering the rarity of other flying and ranged units in non-sylvan decks.


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 Post subject: Re: Thistle Falcon
 Post Posted: Sun Jan 25, 2009 6:08 pm 
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As much as it pains me to admit it, i sorta agree.

The Falcon is of right now the best 3flux early scout to put out (barring special needs like a dwarf for a future wyrm etc.)

I know its supposed to be a falcon but maybe this Thistle breed has poor eyesight? :)

-1 vision please. So it cannot drop a building and still be in range to charge in the opposite direction. Also note that it currently has DOUBLE the vision and hp of a sleet mogi for 1 more flux).


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 Post subject: Re: Thistle Falcon
 Post Posted: Mon Jan 26, 2009 12:02 am 
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If you take away 1 vision and 1 hp, then 1337 mogi will be the superior aloft creature.

If you "must" take away one hp from thistle falcon, I would leave the vision alone, and give it back a movement of 4.

For what it's worth, I think this change would actually encourage players to control it a little more like a raptor would actually hunt... stalking prey from out of sight and making precise, surgical attacks when there is an opening...


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 Post subject: Re: Thistle Falcon
 Post Posted: Mon Jan 26, 2009 10:28 pm 
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Oh no, i really just meant -1 vision not hp also.
so it would be 1at/2hp w/ 3m/3v


but the more i think about it the more it just doesnt sit with me right.
i have this feeling that sleet mogi and thistle falcon got their stats all wrong.

Thistle Falcon (just how BIG are these falcons anyway? bigger than a dwarven warrior?!)
2flux
1a/1h 3m/4v
1f:return to hand (like a trained falcon is supposed to anyways no?)


Sleet Mogi
3flux
1a/2h 3m/2v (no poor creature should be 2vision, but thats the elementals burden :(


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 Post subject: Re: Thistle Falcon
 Post Posted: Tue Jan 27, 2009 12:19 am 
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We already nerfed it once (-1 speed) and falcon is fine now. It's not so strong now and it's not so big problem for me to play against falcon with speed 3.
With 1 HP falcon should cost 2 flux. And if it will cost 2 flux you'll be able to create two creatures at 1st round and it's even worse than single old 1/2 falcon.


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 Post subject: Re: Thistle Falcon
 Post Posted: Tue Jan 27, 2009 10:45 pm 
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Altren wrote:
We already nerfed it once (-1 speed) and falcon is fine now. It's not so strong now and it's not so big problem for me to play against falcon with speed 3.
With 1 HP falcon should cost 2 flux. And if it will cost 2 flux you'll be able to create two creatures at 1st round and it's even worse than single old 1/2 falcon.


Give it 1 speed back (it flies, I have no problem with that) and remove 1 HP. It's just too tough for the cost and the flying


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