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 Post subject: Revenant Bishop
 Post Posted: Wed May 26, 2010 11:05 am 
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Good things about RB:

It can take care of some boring and/or OP cards like Overclock, Training, Claimed with blood, Desolation totem, Benefits of Spectacle, Attrittion, etc.

Bad things about RB:

It makes it impossible (or at lest stupid) to play many cool enchantment based decks like Loyal wilds, Beligerent Dryad, Awaken the Stones, Planar intersection fire, etc.


Suggested fix 1: Put RB third card from the top instead of on the top.

Suggested fix 2: Reduce flux cost and shuffle RB in to the deck instead of putting in on the top.

Suggested fix 3: Increase flux cost.


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 Post subject: Re: Revenant Bishop
 Post Posted: Wed May 26, 2010 5:00 pm 
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I don't think it's OP
because Bishop goes back on the top of your deck. And if you had out 2 of them, both of them go there .. just imagine mid or late game, where your 2 next draws are gonna be Bishops .. even if you recycle them (=play them again), you must run out of creatures to provide them vision or flux (most of those enchantments it counters are cheaper) thus losing...

and the other guy still can play Null Stone which is being ignored right now to make sure you won't get rid of his combo that easily ;)


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 Post subject: Re: Revenant Bishop
 Post Posted: Wed May 26, 2010 5:11 pm 
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Zurken wrote:
I don't think it's OP


I challenge you to show me were that claim was made...


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 Post subject: Re: Revenant Bishop
 Post Posted: Wed May 26, 2010 5:40 pm 
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yaron wrote:
Zurken wrote:
I don't think it's OP


I challenge you to show me were that claim was made...


mea culpa, everyone who writes about card wants it being nerfed lately, so I took it for granted :oops:


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 Post subject: Re: Revenant Bishop
 Post Posted: Wed May 26, 2010 5:58 pm 
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Zurken wrote:
I don't think it's OP
because Bishop goes back on the top of your deck. And if you had out 2 of them, both of them go there .. just imagine mid or late game, where your 2 next draws are gonna be Bishops .. even if you recycle them (=play them again), you must run out of creatures to provide them vision or flux (most of those enchantments it counters are cheaper) thus losing...

and the other guy still can play Null Stone which is being ignored right now to make sure you won't get rid of his combo that easily ;)



First: Ive never played a game were someone was stupid ebough to have two out at the same time, so I dont think this is a good argument.

Secon: Null Stone does not protect against RB.

Third: Having other creatures to provide vision is seldom a problem.


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 Post subject: Re: Revenant Bishop
 Post Posted: Wed May 26, 2010 6:38 pm 
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Seems you haven't played me then .. I was quite surprised when I've encountered it for the first time :shock: (didn't repeat it tho)

with Null Stone; true .. obviously it's been really a long time since I've played actively so I'm starting to forget.. :o

but I still think what I've said is true. That card is fine as it is.


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 Post subject: Re: Revenant Bishop
 Post Posted: Wed May 26, 2010 8:16 pm 
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Im not sure I think it is OP either, but I dont like that we got a card that makes it impossible/stupid to use so many other cool cards.


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