Hey all,
Hope you hate my deck, and not me.

I just wanted to clear things up. I only have 1 twisting intentions in my deck, and most of my wins I don't even draw the card. It is a helpful card to have, but it does not define my deck. The reason you are unable to beat my deck (provided I get lucky and draw the cards I need) is because you don't kill my enchantments. There are quite a few ways to counter my deck with only 2 cards (that help in all situations, not just my deck). I won't go into detail with what they are, because it would be stupid to tell you exactly how to beat me, but they're not all enchantment killing cards. Flux draining, enchantment killing, spell cancelling, etc...

Before you demand that my deck be changed, please consider the ways in which you can improve your own deck.

Thanks,
Ryan

I think your deck is lame, I admit, but that's not why I've commented on this thread. I just think it's boring to use "one trick pony" decks.

in terms of counters, there are very few that would actually work given a proper spectacle deck. negates and disenchants only work if you have them in hand at the right time. sinkholing your buildings has the same issue and furthermore you'll just draw more anyway. skullduggery is 3 domain and means you're vulnerable to heat waves; not to mention it's not terribly useful otherwise.

so sure there are counters, just no good ones that any deck can add.

oh and you mention spell cancelling. sure you can pack dew mogis, but that only works a limited amount of times and does nothing to address the real problem of the global enchants.

I'm sorry that you think my deck is lame and that you do not enjoy using "one trick pony" decks, but that's not my problem. You're free to use any deck you want, nobody is asking you to play my deck for me.

Contrary to what you seem to think you "know", there are plenty of viable counters to my deck that can all be found in normal decks. But then again, how would I know? I just play the deck and observe my counters. You have months of experience not using or dealing with my deck so clearly you are more qualified to tell me its strengths and weaknesses.

Perhaps you can dry your tears with the next edition, wherein many more enchantment killers will be added for those who are too lazy or lack the foresight to include one of the many useful cards that (as a bonus) counter my deck.

I know I said I didn't want to give away my counters (for obvious reason) but I will sacrifice one in order to point out that you're speaking before thinking: You don't need to put dew mogis in your deck. If you use (a) mogi nest(s), you can pump out quite a few dew mogis without "expending" them from your deck. In this case, *I* have a limited amount of cards and *YOU* have the replenishing source of counters.

Of course, this is not the only counter. There are plenty. I need flux, the ability to cast spells, and my enchants. There are at least 10 cards that will take one of those away from me. Please think before posting your next reply.

Thanks,
Ryan

You've obviously never played a mogi nest. You have a 1/4 chance for a dew mogi, and it dims. Let's assume an ideal situation and say you have 3 flux wells, one magma chamber and two mogi nest. You get 5 flux per turn. You'd average a dew every other turn, while expending 4 flux per turn. A dew costs 2 flux, so you're putting all you flux into pulling and playing dews.

Now last time I checked, you draw one card a turn meaning you'll be able to play close to two spells for each dew I play. And that's not counting twisting intentions either. You know how many dews I have out so you can play your spells accordingly. Which still results in gg to you, assuming you pull your one trick pony.

There are only two cards that take flux away the aforementioned skulldugery and harmonic dissonance. It's true I didn't mention dissonance, but it has the same drawbacks of skull; and when was the last time you saw either played?

The only card that prevents you from casting is gilded organ; again a rather terrible card otherwise.

The only anti-enchantment spells that work on globals are negate, disenchant, and restore nature's balance; which are limited to two domains.

In theory, you could try to counter with things like knowing despair, but that relies on a lot of luck and again isn't all that common. Forum is borderline practical, but doesn't prevent you from casting what you need to.

It doesn't take a genius to figure out there aren't good counters to spectacle decks (or other global enchants). If there were, there wouldn't be this discussion. This has been a recurring problem with enchants, especially globals. Length of time playing or not playing your deck have nothing to do with it.

Actually, I've played against a few decks with them. They did quite well.


There's no reason you wouldn't have 3, 4 or even 5 flux wells against my deck, but 3 flux wells seems to be a good example.


For some reason you're assuming that all of my cards are spell cards, when in fact less than half of them are. Taking that into account, you have a better chance of drawing a mogi than I have of drawing a spell card. Also, having a dew mogi out prevents me from using twisting intentions until the dew mogi(s) are gone (The spell is canceled and I lose the card), so whatever point you were trying to make about twisting intentions here is not valid.


Skullduggery and knowing despair are good cards for any black deck, they're great counters for all spell-casting decks (Surely, I'm not the only one who doesn't rely 100% on creatures?) If you think the cards are useless then I'm skeptical about your knowledge of the game and critical thinking skills.


Again, this is a situational card. It would probably be seen in a deck that revolves around creatures and fast building expansion. You seem to believe that situational cards are bad. Keep in mind that Twisting Intentions is a pretty situational card that was mostly overlooked until I began using it.


Two domains are half the total domains, and one of those is the most common (Sylvan).


I addressed knowing despair earlier, and it's a great card against anybody. More useful for those who hold on to spell cards for combos, like me. You're a fool if you don't see the usefulness of these cards. They are control cards.


Apparently, either I'm a genius or you're a... Well, you get the point. It seems to me that everything you've said thus far has been completely biased against the deck because you can't find a place to fit this cards in your deck. I'm sorry, but no deck is supposed to win 100% of the time. Mine has plenty of counters, and apparently mine is a counter to yours. All of the situational cards you denounce are very useful. You should be a little more creative and find ways to fit them into your deck instead of conservatively clinging to an obsolete model. You're not going to be able to rally the masses and get cards changed every time a new combo comes up.

Welcome to TCGs. Combos happen, crying happens and then counters happen. Which stage do you think you're on?

I'd like to be the first to publicly say you, sir, are a pretentious prick and I'd be far too lucky if this were the last time we ever heard from you.




You are clearly new around here and didn't bother reading through the posts from before you started...



See point 1, above.

EAD,
Mist

Well, I agree with rrowland in most cases and I don't see any problem in this combo. If deck can be easily beaten with one card (for example disenchant).

From the other hand only bad thing I can see here is that we don't have strict rules and I'm not sure that TI should work on itself (I always thought that you have two). "Duplicate target card in your hand", but what happens with card when we cast it? When you just casted card you don't have it in hand, but effect not happened yet and when you trying to resolve effect there's nothing in hand that you can copy because you just casted TI and it's not in your hand anymore. For example in MTG you putting card on table (right? I played MTG only several times) and you won't be able to do same trick.

P.S. Again, I'm not against rrowland deck, it's fine and interesting to play against, all I wrote is just thinking aloud. I just thinking about strict rules from time to time

P.P.S. Patience my friends.

I'm a prick because I know how TCGs work? Trying to bully me won't make me leave. Sorry!


Clearly! I apologize for not reading the entire forum before posting. I did not know it was commonplace, or a requirement. I wonder how many people read an entire forum before posting on it. However, I'm going to guess zero.

If you want to be productive, maybe you should link me to the thread you're referring to.


See corresponding point 1, above.

I don't really know what your problem is. I'm sorry if I offended you in some way. However, I'm not sorry that I broke the mold of creatures vs. creatures without thought for alternative ways to win. I'm not sorry that I have challenged you to change your deck to counter more decks. Get used to it, combos will come and go and they're not all going to be changed because you simply don't feel like changing your deck.

Combos and other alternate strategies are good for a game. It would be a problem if there were no ways to counteract the strategy, but the deck is quite beatable.