First of all, who is to say it is a bug?Second, maybe the person who thought of it has previously asked jed a question related to how globe is supposed to work and waited an hr for an answer and never got one. Perhaps, the person realized that it would make sense that it is not a bug.



I never said it was not OP. I said there is no proof that it is OP. If we go nerfing stuff because "someone out there may be able to turn it into an OP combo" then a lot more cards need nerfs.

As for if taken=removed, I don't know. Perhaps jed or altren could answer that?



That is incorrect. The wording of Flash Flood is not the same as the wording on any other world enchant. So this argument holds no ground.



Quite funny. The two times I watched it played, it was beaten by MF, and then DL.

Sorry, but the topic of this thread is not a bug. Flash Flood is unusual for an enchantment in that it physically alters the world. In fact, I think Forest Fire, Kudzu, and Flash Flood are the only enchantments which can do that. I hope we can all agree that the other two are not in the same league as Flood in the size and scope of the alteration.
The effect created by Flood is maintained until Flood is gone. This can be accomplished by destroying the enchantment or when Flood runs out of tokens.
IMO, when something is taken, it is essentially put in stasis inside whatever figure did the taking. When Globe takes Flash Flood, Flood still exists inside the Globe and it is frozen with however many tokens it has left. If Globe is destroyed (or sacrificied), "Any enchantment held by Globe is replaced...".
But the Flood is not gone, just trapped inside the Globe. The water should remain. I'm not sure if the combo is OP, but it definitely deserves some consideration.

it is difficult to argue semantics with someone uninterested in the semantics in question.



as noted earlier in this thread, your logic applies to all world enchantments. e.g., attrition exists in the globe, has no tokens, and you are effectively arguing that the effect should remain, since it is in "stasis".



your anecdotes does not address my point. anyone can take an overpowered card and fail to execute, due to either bad luck or incompetence.

I agree with Ugly_Pug, that seems to be what it does, and it seems very logical behavior. So the question now is, is it OP? If it is, nerf away. Right now, I have not seen any evidence it is OP.



Until Flash Flood is removed from play, it's effect stays. I see no where that says taken=removal.

Attrition: Enchant World. Any enemy Creature in area you control takes 1 damage at the end of round.

I see nothing about "removal" or "taken"! so, by the logic above, attrition (and, once again, nearly every other world enchantment) will continue while in the globe. or after a disenchant! or wait ......... maybe it is IMPLIED that enchantments that are removed or taken are not in effect!

as for overpowered. you can actually have the entire map in perpetual flood starting on round one. cast warren, glub bird, raw power, weather vane, flash flood. on round two, move the glub bird and cast loxlorn globe.

for better win percentages (for those who wish to continue abusing this bug until it is fixed, I'd recommend a sylvan/elemental deck that has cheap fliers (falcon, sleet mogi, wind mogi, dusk efreet), gills and fins, call to battles, and maybe nefarious research with a diplomat.

Exactly.You see nothing about "removal".Which means that it's effect can be taken away without the card being removed.As opposed to Flash Flood.Which states that it's effect stays until it is removed. No where does it say that taken=removal, so it makes perfect sense that the terrain stays water.




Would you like to redo the math? 10 flux starting+5 flux from raw power+3 flux second round=18 flux. 7 flux warren+1 flux glub+5 flux vane+2 flux flood+2 flux globe+2 flux to take the flood=19 flux. So that would not work after all.



lol...thats...genius!!

huh?



no, it doesn't state this. for those that care:

Flash flood: Lifespan(2). Enchant World. All land spaces without a Figure become ocean. When Flash Flood is removed all these spaces are returned to their previous terrain.



you are right. though, the perpetual flash flood could still be cast in the first round (with two raw powers). or, with the cards I listed initially, the perpetual flash flood could be cast in the second round after your opponent has had (at most) one move.

Lol? When flash flood is removed all spaces return to previous terrain. Until it is removed, they are water. Taken does not equal removed.

My 2 centavos:

Question #1: Do all the cards appear to be working correctly in this combo?

yes (remove, destroy, sacrifice, taken... are each different)

Question #2: Is the combo OP?

probably

Question #3: Can anything be done to fix the situation IF it is determined to be OP?

yes

Question #4: Is the discoverer of this combo as sexy as he thinks?

I doubt it

Peace,

DarkJello

The undisputed master of gelatinous forces throughout much of Europe and the new world...

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