Ithlid: Well thought out and intelligent post.


Everyone: I make this challenge to you:

Knowing that Rev Bishop is the game, using any and all cards in the game (you don't have to own the cards), come up with a Loyal Wilds EC legal deck that stands a good chance to defeat a CI deck that runs 2-3 Bishops.

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Altren wrote:

I agree with Keyser, and that's what I'm planning to implement actually.

|| The Rise of the DCC | Plasmatium Netherious | Tastes Like Chicken | The Astridian Conspiracy ||

Guild -> | Platypus Rising|

I can tell you right now... CaveTroll, Altren, Voices and TheFlashPoint have those (and TFP's deck is enchantment-heavy).

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Looking for: Crumbling Alone (2)
Also looking for: Revenant Bishop, Osin Faith Healer, Pilgrim's Cairn, Avenging Angel (2)

Even when Revenant Bishop gets my claimed with blood and desolation totem my deck will still usually win.

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I haven't seen any of them use a Loyal Wilds deck? When did they start using that?

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Altren wrote:

I agree with Keyser, and that's what I'm planning to implement actually.

|| The Rise of the DCC | Plasmatium Netherious | Tastes Like Chicken | The Astridian Conspiracy ||

Guild -> | Platypus Rising|

Meh, I missed the Loyal Wilds part.

Still I'm sure it's possible... after all, if your entire win condition is based off three cards in your deck coming out, that's a pretty crappy deck, Loyal Wilds or not. So I'm pretty sure you yourself could come up with one.

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Looking for: Crumbling Alone (2)
Also looking for: Revenant Bishop, Osin Faith Healer, Pilgrim's Cairn, Avenging Angel (2)

Here's a Loyal Wilds deck that would probably be effective against Revenant Bishop. The deck starts out with a large number of very cheap cards and when it hits 3 domain it tries to win through Tree Mother and Woodland Link card advantage. It has a large number of cheap enchantments so you can usually play one to remove the bishop and come out ahead on flux. I haven't tested this deck yet myself since I don't have all the cards for it so it probably needs some tweaking.

Buildings: (5x)
2x Beacon of Celador
1x Grove
2x Great Oak

Creatures: (15x)
3x Thistle Falcon
3x Tenderfoot Archer
3x Tree Mother
3x Pine Ent
1x Sapling
2x Valedune Arborist

Enchants: (19x)
3x Loyal Wilds
3x Entangle
3x Lycanthropy, Bear
3x Seedling
3x Woodland Link
3x Kudzu

Spells: (2x)
2x Silviculture

Total: 40

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Consider me pwned.

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Altren wrote:

I agree with Keyser, and that's what I'm planning to implement actually.

|| The Rise of the DCC | Plasmatium Netherious | Tastes Like Chicken | The Astridian Conspiracy ||

Guild -> | Platypus Rising|

My loyal wilds deck loses 60% of its games, and even more so if my oponent plays with bishop. Many of the games I win is against decks using no enchantment removal at all, so I dont think you sjould count me among those who know how to make good loyal wilds decks:)

Aha! Responding before reading everything (much like I did)... Didn't mean about Loyal Wilds.

Regardless... Your post is interesting... Does that mean that other means of destroying enchantments are pretty good at destroying a Loyal Wilds deck?

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Looking for: Crumbling Alone (2)
Also looking for: Revenant Bishop, Osin Faith Healer, Pilgrim's Cairn, Avenging Angel (2)

No, it just mean that my deck using loyal wild isnt very good