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Huger
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Post subject: Re: First Draft of Balancing changes Posted: Thu May 20, 2010 6:24 pm |
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Joined: Tue Sep 08, 2009 12:36 am Posts: 39
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jed wrote: Woodland Link (-2 cost) queeshai wrote: I think this card would be played (as is) in any tree deck with the upgraded dominion and decomposition. and, for two flux, you'd see it in some other decks. for one flux, I think it would become a staple of any 2S deck -- is this the desired effect? I've played enough tree decks to safely say that you would be right, except the randomness of maps would screw you too often. It's not at all uncommon to have a map where none of the trees are good spots to put your creatures, so I don't think the cost reduction on woodland is unreasonable. In addition, as I've unsuccessfully tried to argue the decomp buff won't be enough for it to see any action, even in tree decks. Granted dominion is a good buff, but it just puts it on par with the domain acceleration that most other domains already have.
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jed
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Post subject: Re: First Draft of Balancing changes Posted: Thu May 20, 2010 6:25 pm |
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Joined: Tue Jan 08, 2008 2:07 am Posts: 1045
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Twinling: 11:58]jed: I really think twinling is fine [11:58]jed: it is better than a single creature with the same stats but 2 attack [11:58]jed: and that is how much that would cost
Zeppelin: leak tokens for any action you take
Woodland link: not sure it would be in every SS deck. We may have to try it at both prices
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noob_mexican
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Post subject: Re: First Draft of Balancing changes Posted: Thu May 20, 2010 6:34 pm |
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Joined: Sat May 30, 2009 10:31 pm Posts: 188
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Twinling could possibly be okay now, due to the buff of treetop dominion. But sylvan doesn't need 3 domain to get weenies out, the only reason it would get 3 domain is for stronger stuff, and I'm not convinced twinling is anywhere near strong enough to be a reason for 3 domain as sylvan.
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Keyser
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Post subject: Re: First Draft of Balancing changes Posted: Thu May 20, 2010 6:36 pm |
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Joined: Fri Jun 12, 2009 12:48 am Posts: 951
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I agree with noob. There is MUCH better 3 domain stuff that can be played than Twinling.
If I want a 1/2 creature for 1 flux, I'll play one with 1 domain cost.
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queeshai
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Post subject: Re: First Draft of Balancing changes Posted: Thu May 20, 2010 6:45 pm |
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Joined: Fri Nov 13, 2009 8:26 am Posts: 139
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I think the strength of twinling is similar to the strength of np -- multiple bodies/corpses for one card and low flux/entity. so combos with ix, benefits of numbers, brigade of the righteous, yarnaga's lab, etc.
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noob_mexican
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Post subject: Re: First Draft of Balancing changes Posted: Thu May 20, 2010 6:49 pm |
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Joined: Sat May 30, 2009 10:31 pm Posts: 188
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queeshai wrote: I think the strength of twinling is similar to the strength of np -- multiple bodies/corpses for one card and low flux/entity. so combos with ix, benefits of numbers, brigade of the righteous, yarnaga's lab, etc.
umm..what? How does it combo with ix, brigade, or lab? If one dies the other vanishes. Benefits of numbers sure, but instead of getting 3 domain i could make a bunch of weenies for numbers...
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queeshai
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Post subject: Re: First Draft of Balancing changes Posted: Thu May 20, 2010 6:57 pm |
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Joined: Fri Nov 13, 2009 8:26 am Posts: 139
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I don't actually have one to test with ... but I was thinking the effect took place at the end of the round.
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Keyser
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Post subject: Re: First Draft of Balancing changes Posted: Thu May 20, 2010 7:07 pm |
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Joined: Fri Jun 12, 2009 12:48 am Posts: 951
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Even if it takes place at end of round... you would play a 1 flux to get two creatures, sac one to the Ix for 2 flux, and have the other die at end of round (with AloIx Nerf)
I don't see any real use of Twinling as is.
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noob_mexican
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Post subject: Re: First Draft of Balancing changes Posted: Thu May 20, 2010 7:11 pm |
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Joined: Sat May 30, 2009 10:31 pm Posts: 188
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Well if it does in fact take place at end of round, could sac one to ix and sac other with dr I suppose. But NP is still better in every single way at 1 domain...
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Altren
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Post subject: Re: First Draft of Balancing changes Posted: Thu May 20, 2010 7:26 pm |
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Joined: Mon Mar 31, 2008 9:55 pm Posts: 716 Location: Moscow, Russia
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I seen most of this before, but I'm surprised that you decided to make decomposition affect 7 spaces. Looks like a killer against DL decks. And also draw a card. Way too big effect for 1S card.
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