just kidding on the title there...
but last night, during the EC, nalen beats out 3 NP/IX mono DL decks and beats out the sylvan rush in the finals to take the gold.
Kudos to Nalen!

so all this discussion of NP/IX being overpowered is amusing to me given that Nalen's deck destroyed all the NP/IX decks out there (including mine)...

i think there is a lot of variety in this game and people dont always explore the variety... and as soon as one strategy is successful and is copied, people sometimes jump in and say it is overpowered and thus I end with (tongue in cheek)....
MF/MF is now overpowered.

That's what I was preaching time and time again about how decks aren't OP just because people started playing them all the time and winning. There's a counter to everything.


Make's you wonder if Altar really is that OP? =)

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Well if you think about it, MF/MF really is OP...
But in seriousness, I agree with the sentiment of this post, but at the same time I think that the way altar/np was was just bad for the game, no fun , and rather OP (cuttingedge himself has apologized to me and others after raping us with his DL deck because he felt it was OP...).

Apologizing after rapage does not the rapage vindicate...

Just stop being a meaner!

And yes, MF/MF is mucho bueno action for sure.

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No offense, but this is a terrible argument/example about counters. If NP/Ix beats just about everything EXCEPT a few decks, then it is probably still overpowered.

It shouldn't take counter-decks to beat another deck because that is Rock/Paper/Scissors and that is very bad.

Why is rock/paper/scissors a bad thing? It encourages a continual rotation of decks which helps spice up the environment. Striving to make specific cards that narrowly counter strategies is bad but having big themes that work well against strategies can be very beneficial to the game. Without such the game will tend to get very generic and very boring as gameplay tends to get very limited.

Rock/paper/scissors is bad because games are less fun that way. If rock plays against paper, and rock loses to paper almost every time, how fun will the game be for either player most of the time? Yes, a few games may be close and rock may win a couple times, but if paper almost always wins and wins easily more often than not, how fun is the game?


I don't think it encourages a continual rotation at all. If Altar/Ix (or whatever) regularly beats everything except a few counters, then it is still going to be overplayed. I agree with the second part of you statement here though.


My argument is that gameplay will get very limited with rock/paper/scissors. I think you limit creativity with rock/paper/scissors and counter decks.