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 Post subject: Ok.. HOW do ladder points work?
 Post Posted: Mon Aug 10, 2009 10:26 am 
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I had 600 (approx) points.
I lost one game and dropped to 300 points.
I won the second game against the same player, and went to 370 points.

Isn't that kinda silly? I mean, I understand the points dropping every time you play the same player... but that much of a drop just after the first match? I think you should get two matches of around the same points before it drops suddenly.

As you are worried about cheating, perhaps it should be a drastic drop if you win two in a row, but at least give the looser a chance to get SOME of their points back in a second game...

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 Post subject: Re: Ok.. HOW do ladder points work?
 Post Posted: Mon Aug 10, 2009 2:46 pm 
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As far as I remember formulas is something like (150 + (looserRank - winnerRank)) / 2^(numberOfGamesPlayed -1). (not sure about 150 and may be there's some constant before rank difference)
So:
1) if you win player that have 50 less rating and if you loose to him results is different - you may win 100 or loose 200;
2) in each next game against same opponent resulting points will be twice less.

So don't loose to low-rated players :)


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 Post subject: Re: Ok.. HOW do ladder points work?
 Post Posted: Mon Aug 10, 2009 2:47 pm 
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....Great... NOW you tell me.... :-)

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 Post subject: Re: Ok.. HOW do ladder points work?
 Post Posted: Mon Aug 10, 2009 3:29 pm 
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Why do you think the ladder gets so hard as your rating gets up there :p


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 Post subject: Re: Ok.. HOW do ladder points work?
 Post Posted: Mon Aug 10, 2009 5:16 pm 
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Hmmmm.... I always thought that a loss usually meant that you lost half of your current ladder points.


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 Post subject: Re: Ok.. HOW do ladder points work?
 Post Posted: Mon Aug 10, 2009 5:33 pm 
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cosmo: that just means you are losing when you don't have that many points to begin with... can you imagine going from 2000 ladder points to 1000 in one loss?


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 Post subject: Re: Ok.. HOW do ladder points work?
 Post Posted: Mon Aug 10, 2009 9:47 pm 
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hmmm it just seems everytime I lose when I'm at > 0 points, I lose exactly half!

Like 142 --> 71 or 348 --> 174

maybe it's just a coincidence when it happens

I mean I do usually stop when I'm at like 600+ points


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 Post subject: Re: Ok.. HOW do ladder points work?
 Post Posted: Tue Aug 11, 2009 5:02 am 
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Yay I lost some ladder games today and I lost less then half!

Hooray!


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 Post subject: Re: Ok.. HOW do ladder points work?
 Post Posted: Tue Aug 11, 2009 6:02 pm 
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yeah you need to have a large number of points.. 348 is not actually a large number... i believe you lose half if you would otherwise lose more than half.


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